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关于强电桥架对弱电的干扰问题讨论
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作者:
neoxh
时间:
2006-1-17 17:57
标题:
关于强电桥架对弱电的干扰问题讨论
<P><BR> 有一个综合布线项目发生在一幢大厦内。大厦为商住楼,规模有27个楼面高。大厦的一楼裙房和二十楼为我的客户所租用,因此需要用三类线将其语音电话系统连接起来,还要放监控视频线。</P>
<P> 可是从二十楼到一楼裙房一定要通过地下一楼的一间大强电间。在强电间内有两个很大的柜子,好象写着低压配电的字样,在柜子的上方,有一根约为500X300的金属强电桥架横穿整个强电间,而我的三类线和监控视频线就是离强电桥架大概7cm的距离,沿着强电桥架一起穿墙出去的。在不破坏大楼结构的情况下,只有这一条路可走,物业也只允许走这一条路。</P>
<P> 所以想问问各位,我的三类线和监控视频线受到强电干扰的影响大不大?对工程的质量会不会有很大的影响(主要是指电话和监控图象)?我用的三类线是AMP的UTP三类100对大对数线缆,听说质量很好,绞对很好,不知道能不能抵抗外部的电磁干扰?另外,是不是强电对弱电的干扰主要就是电磁干扰?fluke仪器能不能测试出或者看出这种干扰?如果不能测试出来,能不能有什么办法可以表现出干扰的情况?</P>
<P> 最后,有没有什么解决的办法?比如包铝箔等方法?好象在这个论坛,或者说在现在的布线界,强电对弱电的干扰,大家谈得不是很多?谢谢各位帮忙讨论了!</P>
作者:
neoxh
时间:
2006-1-18 08:24
顶!
作者:
arrise
时间:
2006-1-18 09:27
<P>综合布线有相应的规范,你自己套吧。虽然设计施工不按规范走的情况时有发生,但不按规范走后果就很难预料了。</P>
<P center" align=center><B>表11.0.2-1 综合布线电缆与电力电缆的间距 </B></P>
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作者:
neoxh
时间:
2006-1-18 17:09
我主要是想问一下会不会对电话有什么影响,比如电话铃声和电话噪音?
作者:
arrise
时间:
2006-1-18 19:22
<P>应该会有一些影响吧,但仅仅是电话,低压配电的桥架不会有太大的干扰。</P>
作者:
雅达919
时间:
2006-1-19 12:32
问题不大,SYV75-x 用双屏蔽的应该没什么问题
作者:
neoxh
时间:
2006-1-25 14:34
高手太少了,继续顶:)
作者:
zxw7707
时间:
2006-1-25 17:26
<P> 电话有点影响,接打电话时可能会有较大的电流声音,监控图像如果视频线用的是128编以下并且是单层的屏蔽层的话可能会出现画面抖动现象,fulke测试不出来。</P>
<P>市场上的抗干扰器可以试试起不起作用,我原来试过,效果能好些!!</P>
作者:
kendly_2004
时间:
2006-1-26 16:15
不是金属线糟,而是PVC管糟的话.各自的距离标准应该有吧.楼主能也一起提供吗?
作者:
wang_nx
时间:
2006-1-28 16:43
<P>其实很简单,如果你整个布线系统是布放在桥架中的,只要强弱电桥架没碰上,就根本没有任何影响,因为对于一个由金属形成的空间里,金属所包含的东西不受电荷影响,也就是说,如果是在有强电及弱电桥架存在的大楼里,它们之间的距离是没有任何影响的,如果你的桥架又做了很好接地的话,,那就一点问题 也没有的。放心布放就是了。但在没有桥架的地方还是要注意的。交叉没有关系,对线的影响不大,我所说的影响是指在拿FLUCK测试时的影响,也就是说如果只是使用是一点影响也没有的。如果拿设备测,值是有变化的,但这个值 是安全的值 。如果是平行布线,,就要注意了,强弱电是有影响的,一定要小心,一般说没有380的动力电的情况下,30 ̄50公分足就行了,但是要记住,平行不能超过15米。</P>
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